How to read this site

If you are new to this site, you might well be appalled by what you read, and may even think that I (the site owner) should be locked up. Mmmmmmm... now there's a thought! But before I get carried away on flights of incarceration fantasy, let me get to the point.

To minimise the risk of unfortunate misunderstandings, please keep in mind as you read that people on this site are writing about what sexually excites and thrills them. This is true even when it seems otherwise. There are many different ways of having a wonderful Taken In Hand relationship, and what thrills one couple will make another couple feel positively ill. The important thing is that the mere fact that something you read turns your stomach or makes your skin crawl does not mean that those involved feel the same way.

So what might you find on this web site that might disgust you? Well, no doubt many different things. But here is a small selection:

You might read material that seems to be suggesting that men are superior to women, or that women need a man's control to stop them going off the rails, or that a man, being a man, has a right to control and correct his woman, or that women should obey men, or that women are faulty and need correction, or that women can't control themselves without a man's firm hand, or that women are entities that feel rather than think, and that if women recognised that and stopped over-analysing everything and were more in touch with themselves as feeling beings and left the thinking and decision-making to their man instead, relationships would be a lot better.

You might read all sorts of distasteful stuff that seems to confirm that the men involved are utter jerks, that the women are down-trodden doormats, or indeed obnoxious brats, or that many posters are in serious need of psychiatric help. You might read material that gives you grave concerns that women are being enslaved, abused, raped, and mistreated in all manner of ways. You might think that people on this site are engaging in non-consensual actions, and that they should be brought to justice. You might conclude that this is a dangerous and nasty web site that ought not to exist.

If you are uneasy about what you read on the site, please take a deep breath and remember that the underlying purpose of all of this alarming-sounding behaviour is to create and maintain in the long-term an exciting, vibrant, connected, evolvable relationship that deeply satisfies both persons.

It is so easy to read posts as they are written and then feel appalled. Posters rarely state explicitly that they are excited by whatever ghastly-sounding idea they seem to be expressing. Some do not even know themselves that they would not be saying this stuff or doing these things if they were not on a deep level thrilled by it. If we insisted that male posters acknowledge that it turns them on to think of (for example) punishing their wife because she is faulty and needs a firm hand, or if we insisted that female posters acknowledge that (for example) the idea that they are out-of-control or otherwise in need of correction or control is a total turn-on to them, that would immediately spoil it for them. The insistence that it is not a sexual thing is functional in their psychology. For some, without that conviction that everything they are saying (no matter how egregious) is true and the real reason for their actions, the whole thrilling dynamic would crumble. Some need to think of what they are doing as non-consensual, even though, in reality, ultimately, in substance as opposed to the mere form, it is very much consensual.

I must admit that I myself have often made the mistake of taking the overt form for the underlying substance when reading posts on Taken In Hand and elsewhere. I was once completely horrified to read a post (on a yahoo group I had just joined) from a woman who seemed to be extremely distressed because, she said, she was being treated abominably by her husband, and used and abused as a sexual slave, completely non-consensually. It sounded from her post as though she was genuinely terribly distressed. But when I read many more of the posts on that group, and including many more by the woman herself, I realised that I had been worried for nothing. The more I read, the more it became clear that she was completely thrilled by her marriage, and by the ghastly-sounding things her husband was doing to her and requiring of her. He was giving her exactly what she wanted! Her apparent distress was all part of the thrill for her. She was not in the slightest bit harmed by any of it. She was not actually distressed – not on a deep level, anyway – she was wildly turned on. For her and her husband, this dynamic, with its abusive-seeming form, was precisely what connected them and excited their passion for each other and kept their marriage a delight for both parties.

If something you read worries you, like I was worried by the post I mentioned above, instead of concluding that highly immoral, non-consensual, abusive things are happening in Taken In Hand homes, try to remember that we really are all unique individuals with different preferences, and that others would not like what you yourself like in a relationship.

Keep in mind that however bad what you are reading sounds, this is what the writer and his or her spouse are into – this is how they connect – this thrills them – this is a way that those particular individuals create and maintain a terrific relationship, and that this is so no matter how revolted/disgusted/appalled/outraged you yourself are by what you read.

If that fails, why not simply ask a few calm, polite questions to try to test your conjecture that bad things are happening? For example, one way to check whether a woman is being abused in reality might be to try to find out whether she would actually choose to be in a relationship without those features if she could. Would she, for example, press a magic button that would turn her husband into a conventional man who prefers an egalitarian relationship without any thrashing? Would she really prefer that? When someone criticises her husband, does she sound genuinely down-trodden or make excuses for him like a battered wife sometimes does, or is the form of her defence more like: “How dare you say that! My husband is a total GOD! I'd never even think of leaving him, and if you shame him out of what he's doing to me, you won't be doing me any favours, so go away and stop trying to change my husband. I want him exactly the way he is!”? Asking a few questions can make it clear that the woman is not at all in the same state of mind as an abused woman.

It it helps, think of a person as having an inner, core self, plus a surface self, or selves on different levels or in different parts of the person's mind. Real non-consent, real rape, real abuse, etc., all affect the person's inner/core self. These things violate the person at her heart. This is very harmful and wrong.

Conversely, consensual non-consent, rape that the woman wants, ‘abuse’ that the woman wants, etc., do not violate the person's core self, they are more superficial, or affect only a proportion of the person's mind rather than being an uncontrolled total violation of her core being.

The person is rendering ‘abuse’ in part of her mind, and her core self is thrilled by the ‘abuse’ rather than being harmed by it, as I explained in this article. She might use this kind of dynamic to learn how to deal with scary situations, or it might simply be an extremely enjoyable and sexually exciting thing for her. It might be part of how that particular woman and her husband connect and grow closer. The point is that it is a good thing, despite how bad it sounds.

So when something you read alarms or appals you, keep in mind that you may be looking at the mere form, when the reality of the underlying substance is very different.

At this point, some readers will be asserting vociferously that if the form is different from the substance, that means that this is all one big game. Well, if it helps you not to get upset by the form, see it that way if you want to. But that is not how Taken In Hand folk experience what they are doing. It doesn't really matter either way. Whatever it is, the important thing is that both individuals want what is happening in their relationship, and for these individuals, what they are doing brings them together and makes their relationship an endless source of interest, excitement, good feelings and connection between them.

See also this article.

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I hope that all new posters read this FIRST

the boss,

Thank you for stating so clearly for newcomers what I hope is obvious to the regular posters here, i.e., that this is what we want, what excites us, what helps us become who we want to be. This kind of relationship. A male-led relationship.

Even I have to keep that in mind when I read something that really does not appeal to me. At those times, I remind myself, "This is what he/she wants. That doesn't mean that I have to want it, too."

The funny thing is that I used to think that about spanking, actually. I would read posts about spanking - especially Louise's - and think, "Oh my gosh, I would never want to be spanked! How could someone want to be spanked?" But the more I read about spanking - and this would surely not have had to be the case, I know that - but in my case, the more I read about spanking, the more I realized that I really was drawn to some form of physical discipline. I replayed over and over again the spanking scenes in "Secretary," and all of my sexual fantasies involve some form of physical domination and/or punishment.

People like Louise - thanks, Louise! - helped me to see inside the dynamics of spanking, how it looks between this or that couple.

(Of course, I have not been spanked at this point, and I have also appreciated those who have said, "Try it first." I suppose I might not really care for it face to face...or is that hand to bottom?)

Then I would think about things that excite me sexually. Being told what to do. Being told what not to do. Being restrained. The idea of some level of pain - not a lot, just a little, but it's there. The thought of saying, "That hurts, please stop!" (when I don't really want him to stop and I know I don't want him to stop but I want to ask him to stop) and he (knowing that this is part of the thrill for me) saying, "I'll stop when I'm ready to stop."

Again, all consensual, all voluntary...and all so intensely exciting sexually!

So thanks again, the boss, for the reminder...and for the upfront notification to new posters that we are not abused, and we are not seeking abuse.

I love the site

the boss,

I love this site. This has been something that has been a desire in me for a long time. However it has not been something my husband has desired.

He has enjoyed the pleasure of an erotic spanking on my bottom but the thought of doing this for discipline turned him off a bit. He noticed some of the articles on the site and thought it wise for me to no longer read them. I decided to read them to him. After a time listening and realizing that everything that we read no matter how strange or bizarre it may seem is all consensual. That takes a load off a person's mind. I know it helped my understanding to read the side articles highlighted in red. That is a wonderful feature. It helps clear up things in one's mind at times.

People have the right to do what they need to find happiness. People that have closed minds would find things on this site objectionable but that is their right as well.

I hope no matter what that you keep this wonderful site open especially for those of us who wish to embrace this way of relating. I think the labor that goes into the writings should never go unnoticed or unappreciated. I myself wish to thank all the readers and the commentators as well. They have given me insight and I've been able to reason with my husband. I'm reaping good things because of my persistance. This is my first comment so I hope it was worded ok. I'm not a writer but I wrote what I felt.

Kathy

Thank you for this site.

Please keep this site “Taken in Hand” going. You have a strong hit rate and it has been growing in numbers. I have learned so much from the articles here and “ok” there are a few extremes but that goes with everything in life.

I have read that women are finding safety, comfort and balance in this type of relationship. This is what has been missing from my life. I have had to be strong for so long that “letting go” sounds impossible to achieve but I still have hope. Do you recall the song: I Need a Hero? I am holding out for a hero and he has got to be strong and larger than life?

Perfection is unobtainable but excellence is worth achieving.

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