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<p><i>&#8220;[S]ince the day I [discovered <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] I have rediscovered my feminity.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/1339#comment-9878" target="_blank">Saima from Pakistan</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a necessary read... Very complex, lots of power shifts, combining respect with pain, and pleasure. Domination roles. Submissive roles. The whole shebang. I'm glad I found it.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://dutchman55555.livejournal.com/8221.html" target="_blank">Dutchman</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>... is the name of a website that I discovered  less than two years ago and which made a big difference to my life.  It made me understand what it was I wanted and helped me to come to terms with my own feelings and gave me the impetus to talk seriously to my husband about our relationship for the first time ever really. The site is about male-led relationships which do not necessarily have to involve spanking.  The owner of the site is more interested in other aspects of male control. There are a lot of interesting articles on the site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1domesticdiscipline/message/35475" target="_blank">Louise C</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is male led but male intimately led. ... I do like the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> focus on family and the focus that marriage is between one man and one woman.  That is actually very important to me.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1012" target="_blank">Frank Nelson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[I]n <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>, I am enhancing and extending my power as a woman, and enriching my life and personality. I give up NOTHING, and gain the world.... [M]y perception of <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is that there are few other venues that can compare for teaching men the responsible, healthy uses of power. It gives men skills and confidence they can use not just in their sexual relationships, but also with their children, in their professions, and out in the community. <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> requires a far higher level of courage, sacrifice, responsibility, and personal integrity than many so-called &#8216;doms&#8217; will even think to aspire to.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1010" target="_blank">Sara</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is about having the man in charge because you like it like that, it's not about blind obedience or never having your own way about anything.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1004" target="_blank">Louise</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I feel the best spanking site is <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a>.  I have referred hundreds of people to that site and have the link on my Yahoo profile.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewishPowerExchange/message/6124" target="_blank">Tess</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;First of all, all you guys should check out this website,  <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/">www.takeninhand.com</a>, very interesting stuff here, check out the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/125">Commanding Presence</a>  [and] <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/342">Alpha Males</a> articles, [...] very valuable insights. [...] I'm taken by this site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seduction_dating/message/971" target="_blank">Eric</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[U]ntil 2 days ago I thought I was a crazy, ... abnormal<br />
woman. [T]hen I stumbled onto the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a> website. I have never felt such relief, such internal peace in my life. This whole idea of being loved and trusting enough in another to place my, his and our well-being into his hands was exactly what I have been searching for my whole life. I spent 16 hours just reading... It is like a huge weight has lifted off my shoulders.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1domesticdiscipline/message/33437" target="_blank">Melissa</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I enjoyed [<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] very much and I recommend that everyone here visits it.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Profound_submission/message/15848" target="_blank">Loveart</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is serious about the nature of male-female relationships, dominance, submission (not the leather-and-stud kind), in way I find exhilarating, honest, refreshing, courageous, and exciting.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://honeybunlife.blogspot.com/2005/02/taken-in-hand-i-want-to-be-possessed.html" target="_blank">HoneyBun</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>: Fascinating BDSM blog that deals with difficult and hot topics!&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.submissivewomenspeak.net/links.htm" target="_blank">Polly Peachum</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a> website has proven to be a valuable source for intelligent and well thought out articles exploring [male-led relationships]. [...] For women who have longed for a relationship such as this and have no idea where to start, this is a great site for you.  For men that want to better understand the whole concept from a women’s point of view, this site is a must read.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.thespankingblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/domestic_discipline_articles_spanked_wife_punished_spouse/" target="_blank">Michael Masterson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;It's a great site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/general.msnw?action=get_message&#038;mview=1&#038;ID_Message=2754" target="_blank">Gem</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;If you think <b>my</b> perspective on dating isn't politically correct you should go read <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>. [It has] posts with titles like, <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/when.rape.is.a.gift" title="Read this post">When rape is a gift</a>. You go, girl.  Defy those hairy-armpitted feminists and enjoy yourself. :)&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/blog/2004/04/if_you_think_my.html" target="_blank">Jacqueline Passey</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;great site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Profound_submission/message/15658" target="_blank">valerie</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;There are lots of websites for people in the BDSM, D/s, DD (domestic discipline) and spanking communities. There are websites for people who belong to religions that advocate male-head-of-household marriage. There are even websites for Christians who are interested in BDSM. But there are very few websites for people who are interested in male-led intimate relationships but who are not interested in all that the above communities associate with this kind of relationship (jargon, clothes, etc.)<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Some of us don't even like thinking of this as a lifestyle. [...]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you are interested in this kind of relationship but are not interested in BDSM or D/s or DD or spanking websites, there's a new website for you: <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.powerandlove.com/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/power/taken_in_hand.writeback" target="_blank">Tom Newman</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] is really the most beautiful website devoted to DD.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/general.msnw?action=get_message&#038;mview=1&#038;ID_Message=1860" target="_blank">PaLady</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] is my major kink&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://bondage.com/topic_id/101212/p/3/forums/topic.html" target="_blank">Spoiledgrrl</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is an] erudite and intelligent site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.submissivewife.org/wisdom1.html" target="_blank">Emily Cox</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is a]n excellent site with many thought-provoking articles and responses.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/links.msnw" target="_blank">Doug</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] one of the most exciting sites on the internet!&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Discipline-Harmony/message/856" target="_blank">Malcolm</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[T]he whole damn site really is one of the most well articulated (pro/con) loaded blogs I've seen. It provides a cross section of how people are feeling out there even amongst those who are &#8216;seemingly&#8217; natural allies.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RavNet/message/13" target="_blank">zbigdogX</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;As I view it, I'm a control freak. I love to be in control. However, I fantasize about that control being stripped from me and handed over to someone else....namely, my husband. I'm just glad I found a site that makes me realize I'm not a freak for wanting to be dominated&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.gypsygirl.net/gypsygirl-archives/000580.html" target="_blank">GypsyGirl</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I was delighted to receive word of <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>. ... a very thoughtful and well-written group blog. ... I'm looking forward to reading through this blog the way I look forward to reading a new novel by a favorite author. It looks that good.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.spankingblog.com/arc20031001.htm#BlogID1336" target="_blank">SpankBoss</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Wow. This site is so amazing.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://suburbansexblog.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_suburbansexblog_archive.html#108076909396883405" target="_blank">Ken</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a wonderful website ... from a MaleDom/femsub perspective ... [I]t's about the interpersonal dynamics of loving relationships where the man is the boss. [I]t's assumed that both partners are in it because that's what they want and have chosen. Also, unlike many other &#8216;traditional marriage&#8217; sites, it's not coming from any sort of biblical perspective. ... Some of the best writing I've seen on these topics, from a variety of authors.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TraditionalDs/message/2990" target="_blank">Dee</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a brill resource.... for info articles... and real life experiences&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.britishspanking.com/forums/showpost.php?p=360157&#038;postcount=13" target="_blank">Spirited Angel</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;A very cool site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.greeblie.com/theyeti/arch/012996.html" target="_blank">The Yeti</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Thank you for providing such a positive, validating place for like-minded people to talk about this in a way that affirms the dignity of both men and women&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/19" target="_blank">Mary</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;a great site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Discipline-Harmony/message/821" target="_blank">Jana Peterson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;an exremely high quality site... I highly recommend [<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>].&#8221;</i><br />
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<div class="content"><p>On <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> there are many articles whose aim is to alert women to the dangers involved in entering a non-equal relationship. I see so many horror stories on the internet, in real life, and even, I fear, sometimes here on <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> too, that I feel a responsibility to warn single <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> women about the narcissistic self-serving predators they are likely to attract. This is also why I stress so often that it is essential that the man in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship must have it quite clear in his mind that the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship should please both persons, not just him.</p>
<p>But men face dangers in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship too, and it is helpful, if you are a single man seeking a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, to be aware of the dangers and more importantly, aware of how to minimise those dangers. If you are a single woman seeking a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, understanding what you are asking of the man might make it easier to be a bit more patient than some of us feel. You also need to take full responsibility for your actions.</p>
<p>Whatever kind of <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship you have or want to have, there are dangers to be aware of. Any time one person has control or power over the other, there is a risk that the person being controlled will not in fact enjoy the fact that she lacks control. But assuming that the man is a good man who loves the woman and wants her to be happy, he will himself find it distressing if his control of the woman does not promote her happiness. The man in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship is not a monster or a narcissist: he really wants his woman to be happy.</p>
<p>If the relationship involves violence, such as spanking, whipping, or any other kind of violence or other SM activities, the dangers are all the greater. There may be some dangers for the woman, but the dangers for the man need to be kept in mind too. In many jurisdictions, any SM/violence is illegal, whether or not it is contenting, and being prosecuted might well ruin a man's life.</p>
<p>Women need to keep this in mind. If they want a man to risk having his life ruined with a terrible criminal prosecution, they had better be worth it. And they should bend over backwards to minimise this risk for the man. </p>
<p>In a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship involving violence (yes, obviously that is <I>consensual</I> or it would not be a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, it would be abuse) the woman must take full responsibility for her own actions. She must take responsibility for her own physical and psychological risk. </p>
<p>If you are a man considering whether or not to risk being violent with your woman, ask yourself whether she understands the physical and psychological risks, and whether she is prepared to take responsibility for them. Especially if there is an element of consensual non-consent involved, the chances are that no matter how well-meaning and careful the man is, at some point there will be a mistake, and the woman will have a bad experience. If she does not understand and expect this to happen, the woman has no business asking the man to engage with her in this way. And the man would be crazy to accede to her request for spanking (or whatever other SM/violent activity she wants). If the woman does not understand that occasionally, the man will do the wrong thing, and she will bear the brunt of the adverse consequences, again, she is not safe to engage with in this way.</p>
<p>We have to take responsibility for our own risk. If you choose to engage in physically or psychologically risky behaviour, you cannot put all the responsibility on the other person. You could choose to have a non-violent conventional relationship. If you want a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, and especially if you want a violent relationship, <I>you are responsible for your own risk</I>. </p>
<p>When something bad happens, what will you do? Run to the police? Throw a tantrum? Turn into a Fatal Attraction bunny boiler type? Sulk? Or will you deal with it, forgive your man, and get on with your life together?</p>
<p>If you are wondering why anything bad ever has to happen, then in my opinion, you are currently not realistic enough to be in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship. Human beings make mistakes. Human beings misjudge things. Human beings do the wrong thing &#8211; even really good people. You cannot expect a man to perfectly judge every situation. If you are in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, there will be occasions in which you suffer unfortunate consequences that you really hate or that make you really distressed at the time. That is the price you pay for the intensity of a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship: it is <I>risky</I>. There are <I>dangers</I>.</p>
<p>If you are a man with the kind of woman who thinks that the man has all the responsibility and that he will be to blame if anything goes wrong, my advice to you is either to end the relationship and find someone who understands her responsibility for her own risk, or do not engage in anything that might possibly be deemed illegal. </p>
<p>If you are a man seeking a hardcore <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship with violence and consensual non-consent, pick your woman very carefully. Your freedom depends on it. Do not rush into a relationship. Take your time. Get to know the woman very well before you start taking legal risks (i.e., engaging in any kind of violence or consensual non-consent). </p>
<p>Do not start engaging violently until you have got to know the woman well enough to have discovered her faults and how she behaves when she is stressed or in an argument with you. People can seem very nice and charming and sane until something bad happens. Then you find out what they are really like under the superficial gloss. Know what she is really like before you do anything that could land you in court. Do not be bulldozed into acting in haste... Women: you just have to be patient. Think about what you are asking of him! Give it time!</p>
<p>It is not enough for you (the man) to know that the woman really wants you to take her in hand against her will and with violence. You need to be sure that she will not suddenly turn on you when what she has asked for turns out not to be what she wants in a particular situation. You need to be sure that she deeply believes in taking responsibility for her own actions and risks. You need to be sure that she understands that you are fallible and that on occasion you will make a mistake. You need to be sure that she strongly believes that it would be <I>wrong</I> of her to go to the police in the event that something bad were to happen as a consequence of the relationship she wants. You need to be sure that she feels strongly protective of you.</p>
<p>Yes, you need to be sure that she feels strongly protective of you, and that this does not change, Jekyll and Hyde style, when the two of you have a disagreement or fight of some kind. </p>
<p>Is she capable of being discreet? Is she the kind of woman who will blab to all and sundry about what you are doing to her? Does she understand that <I>careless talk costs lives</I>? If you think that the woman you are considering entering a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship with might be indiscreet, you would be a fool to risk entering into a relationship with this woman. Find one who is capable of discretion. Find a woman who believes in keeping the private sphere very private. Such a woman is far less likely to cause a problem down the line.</p>
<p>The woman needs to have considerable maturity. This does not mean she has to be chronologically older. It means that she needs to have enough psychological strength and autonomy and self-esteem and good sense and rationality not to be permanently harmed in the event that something goes wrong. As a man, you have some responsibility here to check that the woman you are thinking of having a relationship with can handle it. Be honest with yourself. Is this woman likely to be destroyed by this relationship? Or harmed in any way? Then obviously it would be wrong to have a relationship with her even if she wants you to very badly.</p>
<p>Both men and women beginning <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationships would do well to take their time and check how the other person behaves in a crisis or fight. If the other person is unable to apologise, or if the other person has a blaming, negative, hostile personality, the alarm bells should be deafening. We must all take responsibility for our own actions and for our own risks. And we had all better be able to handle it when something bad happens. Because it most assuredly will. That is the human condition. Deal with it!</p>
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<p>Yes, it's definitely best to know someone well before entering into such an arrangement! I'm just wondering what states might prosecute someone for engaging in this even if it's consensual! I can't imagine a man getting in trouble for spanking his wife when it's what she wants him to do!</p>

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<p>But there are many other states, where consent is not a defense to a battery. And spanking is within the definition of a battery. So yes, a man who spanks his wife runs the risk of incarceration even if she is very happy about the whole thing. In practice, our jails are not full of guys who spank their wives, and it rarely becomes an issue. But it could.</p>
<p>It's not just that you have to trust your partner not to run to the police, though. The state has a right to intervene if they receive a call from concerned (or just plain nosy) neighbors, too.</p>
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<p>I don't know about husband and wives, but certainly people indulging in consensual sado-masochistic relationships can get prosecuted in the UK.  There was a case here some years ago where a group of men who indulged in very extreme but entirely consensual Sado-masochism were prosecuted. They got incredibly savage prison sentences, at least one of them was sent down for five years, which is more than most murderers get here.  I've never actually heard of a man here being prosecuted for whacking his wife with her consent, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it did happen.</p>

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<p>because for the past week, I've been thinking that an article along these lines would be most fitting for this site...as a warning and precaution, if nothing else.</p>
<p>I realize the case I mention is BDSM and not <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>, but recently a lawyer was prosecuted for abuse....he engaged in a consensual relationship with a girlfriend, whereby she asked for "rough sex". After he gave her that, she used it to press charges against him.</p>
<p>In America we have what is called the VAWA (Violence Against Women Act), which on the surface SOUNDS well-meaning, but certain elements of society (the male-hating segment) uses this law to break up families, incarcerate innocent men, and take children away from families. I have seen too many cases where it happens. I personally think one goal is to make men suspicious of women so as to end normal relationships/break up the traditional family, and in America women have banded together to have this law changed to be more fair to men and families.</p>
<p>The law states that even if a woman ADMITS she called the police only so they can act as referees in an argument, the STATE is bound to press charges against the man anyway. IOW the woman cannot even stop the proceedings once she calls.</p>
<p>Men need to be very careful, and be sure to avoid any and all <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> or BDSM relationships with women who seem mentally or socially unstable in ANY way. Be sure you know her WELL first!</p>

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<p>I can`t imagine that a man in Germany can get in trouble for spanking his wife with her consent. They are very open here about sexual activities. From what I`ve heard about the States though I can believe that they would make a big deal about it even if the woman wants it. Here somebody has to press charges first to get the other person in trouble. When I hear about cases were parents are arrested because they took a shower with their child than I`m glad I live in Germany. I take showers with my nine year old son all the time and my husband took showers with my daughters up until they were about eight. This is considered totally normal here and if a wife and husband say they`re happy with the way they live and not hurting anyone, the police has better things to do than to get them in trouble. Plus I`m pretty sure as long as it happens at home they couldn´t do anything about it because it would be interferring in their private life. And their is a law in Germany that behind your own walls you can live the kind of life you want to live as long as you`re not bothering anybody in the neighborhood. </p>
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<p>I understand even the bottoms were imprisoned for conspiring with their tops. Really a crazed decision. And yet under the law as it stands it was appropriate.</p>
<p>But to get back to the main topic here you have to trust your partner in any relationship but moreso in one where you are breaking the law (consensually though it may be).</p>
<p>On the other hand sometimes it isn't a mistake... sometimes it is a slide into abuse. You have to be able to tell the difference and react accordingly. </p>
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<p>Thank God I live in central Europe where the law about domestic violence has just been passed (after years) and it´s entirely democratic, no man-hate, unfortunately there´s not much effort to apply it...</p>
<p>Before the victim´s situation was very bad and there was no law to prosecute the offender.</p>

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