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<p><i>&#8220;[S]ince the day I [discovered <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] I have rediscovered my feminity.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/1339#comment-9878" target="_blank">Saima from Pakistan</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a necessary read... Very complex, lots of power shifts, combining respect with pain, and pleasure. Domination roles. Submissive roles. The whole shebang. I'm glad I found it.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://dutchman55555.livejournal.com/8221.html" target="_blank">Dutchman</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>... is the name of a website that I discovered  less than two years ago and which made a big difference to my life.  It made me understand what it was I wanted and helped me to come to terms with my own feelings and gave me the impetus to talk seriously to my husband about our relationship for the first time ever really. The site is about male-led relationships which do not necessarily have to involve spanking.  The owner of the site is more interested in other aspects of male control. There are a lot of interesting articles on the site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1domesticdiscipline/message/35475" target="_blank">Louise C</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is male led but male intimately led. ... I do like the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> focus on family and the focus that marriage is between one man and one woman.  That is actually very important to me.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1012" target="_blank">Frank Nelson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[I]n <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>, I am enhancing and extending my power as a woman, and enriching my life and personality. I give up NOTHING, and gain the world.... [M]y perception of <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is that there are few other venues that can compare for teaching men the responsible, healthy uses of power. It gives men skills and confidence they can use not just in their sexual relationships, but also with their children, in their professions, and out in the community. <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> requires a far higher level of courage, sacrifice, responsibility, and personal integrity than many so-called &#8216;doms&#8217; will even think to aspire to.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1010" target="_blank">Sara</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is about having the man in charge because you like it like that, it's not about blind obedience or never having your own way about anything.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/1004" target="_blank">Louise</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I feel the best spanking site is <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a>.  I have referred hundreds of people to that site and have the link on my Yahoo profile.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JewishPowerExchange/message/6124" target="_blank">Tess</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;First of all, all you guys should check out this website,  <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/">www.takeninhand.com</a>, very interesting stuff here, check out the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/125">Commanding Presence</a>  [and] <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/node/342">Alpha Males</a> articles, [...] very valuable insights. [...] I'm taken by this site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/seduction_dating/message/971" target="_blank">Eric</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[U]ntil 2 days ago I thought I was a crazy, ... abnormal<br />
woman. [T]hen I stumbled onto the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a> website. I have never felt such relief, such internal peace in my life. This whole idea of being loved and trusting enough in another to place my, his and our well-being into his hands was exactly what I have been searching for my whole life. I spent 16 hours just reading... It is like a huge weight has lifted off my shoulders.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/1domesticdiscipline/message/33437" target="_blank">Melissa</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I enjoyed [<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] very much and I recommend that everyone here visits it.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Profound_submission/message/15848" target="_blank">Loveart</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is serious about the nature of male-female relationships, dominance, submission (not the leather-and-stud kind), in way I find exhilarating, honest, refreshing, courageous, and exciting.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://honeybunlife.blogspot.com/2005/02/taken-in-hand-i-want-to-be-possessed.html" target="_blank">HoneyBun</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>: Fascinating BDSM blog that deals with difficult and hot topics!&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.submissivewomenspeak.net/links.htm" target="_blank">Polly Peachum</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken in Hand</a> website has proven to be a valuable source for intelligent and well thought out articles exploring [male-led relationships]. [...] For women who have longed for a relationship such as this and have no idea where to start, this is a great site for you.  For men that want to better understand the whole concept from a women’s point of view, this site is a must read.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.thespankingblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/domestic_discipline_articles_spanked_wife_punished_spouse/" target="_blank">Michael Masterson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;It's a great site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/general.msnw?action=get_message&#038;mview=1&#038;ID_Message=2754" target="_blank">Gem</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;If you think <b>my</b> perspective on dating isn't politically correct you should go read <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>. [It has] posts with titles like, <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/when.rape.is.a.gift" title="Read this post">When rape is a gift</a>. You go, girl.  Defy those hairy-armpitted feminists and enjoy yourself. :)&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/blog/2004/04/if_you_think_my.html" target="_blank">Jacqueline Passey</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;great site.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Profound_submission/message/15658" target="_blank">valerie</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;There are lots of websites for people in the BDSM, D/s, DD (domestic discipline) and spanking communities. There are websites for people who belong to religions that advocate male-head-of-household marriage. There are even websites for Christians who are interested in BDSM. But there are very few websites for people who are interested in male-led intimate relationships but who are not interested in all that the above communities associate with this kind of relationship (jargon, clothes, etc.)<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Some of us don't even like thinking of this as a lifestyle. [...]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you are interested in this kind of relationship but are not interested in BDSM or D/s or DD or spanking websites, there's a new website for you: <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.powerandlove.com/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/power/taken_in_hand.writeback" target="_blank">Tom Newman</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] is really the most beautiful website devoted to DD.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/general.msnw?action=get_message&#038;mview=1&#038;ID_Message=1860" target="_blank">PaLady</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>] is my major kink&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://bondage.com/topic_id/101212/p/3/forums/topic.html" target="_blank">Spoiledgrrl</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is an] erudite and intelligent site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.submissivewife.org/wisdom1.html" target="_blank">Emily Cox</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is a]n excellent site with many thought-provoking articles and responses.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.msn.com/DomesticDisciplineandHOHRelationships/links.msnw" target="_blank">Doug</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] one of the most exciting sites on the internet!&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Discipline-Harmony/message/856" target="_blank">Malcolm</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[T]he whole damn site really is one of the most well articulated (pro/con) loaded blogs I've seen. It provides a cross section of how people are feeling out there even amongst those who are &#8216;seemingly&#8217; natural allies.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RavNet/message/13" target="_blank">zbigdogX</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;As I view it, I'm a control freak. I love to be in control. However, I fantasize about that control being stripped from me and handed over to someone else....namely, my husband. I'm just glad I found a site that makes me realize I'm not a freak for wanting to be dominated&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.gypsygirl.net/gypsygirl-archives/000580.html" target="_blank">GypsyGirl</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;I was delighted to receive word of <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>. ... a very thoughtful and well-written group blog. ... I'm looking forward to reading through this blog the way I look forward to reading a new novel by a favorite author. It looks that good.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.spankingblog.com/arc20031001.htm#BlogID1336" target="_blank">SpankBoss</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Wow. This site is so amazing.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://suburbansexblog.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_suburbansexblog_archive.html#108076909396883405" target="_blank">Ken</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a wonderful website ... from a MaleDom/femsub perspective ... [I]t's about the interpersonal dynamics of loving relationships where the man is the boss. [I]t's assumed that both partners are in it because that's what they want and have chosen. Also, unlike many other &#8216;traditional marriage&#8217; sites, it's not coming from any sort of biblical perspective. ... Some of the best writing I've seen on these topics, from a variety of authors.&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TraditionalDs/message/2990" target="_blank">Dee</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;[<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> is] a brill resource.... for info articles... and real life experiences&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.britishspanking.com/forums/showpost.php?p=360157&#038;postcount=13" target="_blank">Spirited Angel</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;A very cool site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.greeblie.com/theyeti/arch/012996.html" target="_blank">The Yeti</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;Thank you for providing such a positive, validating place for like-minded people to talk about this in a way that affirms the dignity of both men and women&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Taken_In_Hand/message/19" target="_blank">Mary</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;a great site&#8221;</i><br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Discipline-Harmony/message/821" target="_blank">Jana Peterson</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;an exremely high quality site... I highly recommend [<a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>].&#8221;</i><br />
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<div class="content"><p>For a man who wants to take a woman in hand, or a woman who wants to be taken in hand, a conventional equal relationship can feel like a living death &#8211; a dull, grey, flat, boring blankness. Something is missing: verve, vitality, life. Something is missing: power, passion, concentrated focus, force. Something is missing: intensity.</p>
<p>A person without any intensity is not a person I could be with.</p>
<p>It is not that intensity alone is enough. There are plenty of bad intense people &#8211; narcissists, psychos, horribly co-dependent types, individuals whose intensity is not a force for good. It would not do to end up with one of those people. But if you need intensity in a person, you need it.</p>
<p>&#8220;How foolish you are to require this!&#8221; shriek our critics. &#8220;At this rate you'll be single and celibate for life!&#8221; they gloat. </p>
<p>What these people fail to appreciate is that not everyone shares their particular preferences in life. For some of us, the alternative to being with a person who has intensity is not a relationship with a person who lacks intensity, but no relationship at all until the day we die. That, at any rate, is my preference. And I know other <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> folk feel the same way, though we may sometimes try to feel differently.</p>
<p>We try to squeeze ourselves into the conventional box with a conventional person who is happy in a conventional relationship, and it fails. We tell ourselves not to be so silly, to stop needing a relationship to be <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a>, to be thankful for what we have, or to stop rejecting potential mates because they do not have the intensity and desires of a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> person. We beat ourselves up for wanting what we want and for being who we are, just like some try to overcome their desire to be with someone they find attractive instead of someone they find repulsive. Some (very misguidedly) tell themselves that they are being &#8220;too superficial&#8221; in caring about physical attraction. We tell ourselves that we shouldn't want a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship. But what folly it is to pretend not to care about these things. How much worse it is to delude ourselves &#8211; how much worse for all concerned.</p>
<p>Many of us have tried to create relationships with persons who lack the <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> fire &#8211; and failed. If you hardly ever meet anyone with the necessary intensity, you might begin to wonder if such individuals exist. You might wonder whether <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> and the thousands of people reading and posting on <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> are all a figment of your fevered imagination.</p>
<p>If the only intense individuals you meet are self-serving narcissists or crazy bunny boiler types, you might begin to wonder if your desire for a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship is entirely healthy. You might try to be happy with the person next door who is, after all, <I>nice</I> &#8211; except that there's something missing: intensity.</p>
<p>But then you meet someone who is kind and sane and reasonable, like the person next door, but who also has intensity and <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> tendencies that thrill you. And then you remember why you can't settle for the person next door. Then you know with renewed conviction why you feel so strongly that you would rather be single and celibate for life than settle for a conventional equal relationship with the person next door. Even if the relationship with the intense but sane and kind person does not work out, it can be a source of joy for you, helping you keep clearly in mind what you want.</p>
<p>When a person is right for you, they feel right for you. They add vibrancy and joy to your life, as you do to theirs; they do not make you feel flat, bored, annoyed with yourself for failing to feel what you are supposed to feel, or any other such depressing things. They do not seem dull, numb, flat, lifeless. When a person is right for you, you do not have a nagging feeling that something is missing &#8211; and neither do they. The person may well be full of faults; there may be many problems; but they feel right nevertheless. </p>
<p>This is not to say that you should ignore glaring faults and commit yourself to someone unworthy on the basis on a foolhardy romantic notion that if it feels right it is right. But if it does <I>not</i> feel right, it isn't right. And if you are the kind of person who likes a bit of intensity in your relationship, and would rather be single and celibate until the day you die if you never meet someone who has that quality, then you might understand my title: </p>
<p>Give me intensity or give me death!</p>
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<p>Almost all of my recent "relationships" felt OK, but none of them
had that special "zing" or "spark". They were just OK, and I had that
nearly depressing feeling of "why bother?", which, of course, led to
the rapid end of those "relationships". It's very difficult to find
anyone who feels alive in an overwhelming sea of zombies.

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<p>Oh wow, your article spoke volumes to me.</p>
<p>Intensity, that's what's missing.  If you need it, you need it: why pretend you don't, why conform to the "norm"?</p>
<p>Saying that though, what does one do when one's partner is "conventional and safe", the marriage is reasonably good and has no "real" reason to leave the marriage?  I guess one has to learn to deny one's own feelings.  I've been divorced once already, I don't really want to go through it all again.</p>
<p>Gee, I feel in a right quandry now.  I'm with a good man, we are happy in our own way, but it lacks intensity and that "spark", we are very, very comfortable with each other, (we've been together 8 years, married 5), both in our mid 40's &#038; 50's.</p>
<p>I have a choice to leave and find someone that is "right" for me, or be on my own which I'd be ok with (though lonely at times) or stay with my husband who is a good, kind, caring man though safe and "normal", and I know he does love me, though our love is not a passionate love, but a brother/sister, good friends type love (if that makes sense)?  There is no denying there is a love between us.</p>
<p>Grace</p>

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<h3 class="title"><a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/give.me.intensity.or.give.me.death#comment-7040" title="Link to this comment." class="active">If you are unhappy in a relationship...</a></h3>

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<p>...you have two choices:</p>
<p>(1) End it;<br />
(2) Find a way to make it work for the two of you.</p>
<p>If you choose (2), it follows that doing things that make you less happy in the relationship, more dissatisfied, more frustrated, not so nice to your spouse, are a huge mistake.</p>
<p>Falling between the two stools is a sure way to misery. Constantly wanting the impossible is antirational and a mistake. </p>
<p>If your man is completely incapable of being the man in a <a href="http://www.takeninhand.com/" class="site">Taken In Hand</a> relationship, banging your head against a brick wall is not going to help. You need to accept it and move on positively from there, not waste time trying to achieve the impossible. Focus on the good things you DO have with him, not the things he lacks. That is the way to become happier with him.</p>
<p>That is -- if it really is as hopeless as all that. To anyone in this situation, are you sure you are judging these things correctly? Could it be that you are not seeing the potential or actuality that is there? This happens all the time in marriages. Then someone else comes along who CAN see what you can't, and the spouse is away with the new person whose view is so much more positive.</p>
<p>But if it really isn't going to happen, and you want not to be completely miserable for ever, and you do not want to end it, for goodness sake stop reading this site and fantasising about being with a different kind of man, and put all your focus and love and attention and positive regard on the man you have. That is the only way to give yourself a chance of feeling better, in my opinion.</p>

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<p>I have come to think of life and relationships like this:  I am an ocean swimmer.  Sometimes the ocean allows me to float easily on the gentle waves, sometimes it washes itself over me and pushes me under, and at times it tosses me under, all asses and elbows, knees scraping the bottom, lungs tight for air, and tosses me on the beach spitting and sputtering, eyes burning, but alive.  Exhilarated and alive.  </p>
<p>I am not happy swimming in a swimming pool, a uniform 4 feet deep, constant 74 degrees, and politely chlorinated.  </p>
<p>I want the intensity of the ocean.  I am not afraid to feel all the things I feel.  I need to be able to express myself with the full intensity I feel life.  </p>
<p>J's G</p>

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<p>KrosRogue wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>It's very difficult to find anyone who feels alive in an overwhelming sea of zombies.</p></blockquote>
<p>But if you remain optimistic and don't get too cynical, you may yet notice the alive ones in the sea of zombies. If you think that everyone is a zombie, you will see everyone as a zombie. You have to retain hope.</p>

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<p>Hi, I've been where you are, so I understand how you feel. I broke it up with the 'safe' guy becuase I realised one day that I was far to young to consider ever 'settling' down or 'settling' for someone that wasnt rocking my boat.</p>
<p>I was 30 at the time, but I hope i still feel the same way when I'm 70! You see, i'm not a settling down sort of a person, so what was I thinking off!</p>
<p>The more important point though, is does this person challenge you? Does your relationship push you to grow as a person? Do you want to grow as a person or do you prefer being comfortable? Being comfortable, safe and secure are qualities accepted as acheivments in this society, but is that what you want?</p>
<p>I'm now in a rather volitile relationship with a man who has made me feel the extremeties of human emotion, right now we are apart  (2 weeks and counting) and it hurts like hell, I go through such a rollercoaster with him, form loving him so much I would submit my entire being to him, to sometimes hating him. But right now, despite the emotional turmoil and pain I am in, I feel so invogorated and I know that I am learning so much about myself from this relationship, that whatever happens, I will never regret it. </p>
<p>This is what I want, but what do you want?</p>

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<p>Oh, yeah!! you would not believe the number of women friends I have - married -- who tell me I should be looking for "companionship".  Screw companionship, I have cats and friends for that!  I am divorced, and unattached and looking for that intensity with the right man.  Yes!</p>

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