My last url links two other data sources, possibly independent of the CIA figures. The WHO one lists Healthy Life Expectancy, at birth *and* at age 60 (broken down by male/female.) We're still poor. http://www.who.int/whr/2004/annex/topic/en/annex_4_en.pdf Healthy years from age 60 female male Japan 21.7 17.5 Switzerl 20.4 17.1 France 20.4 16.6 Spain 19.9 16.4 Sweden 19.6 17.1 Australia 19.5 16.9 Italy 19.4 16.4 Canada 19.3 16.1 Germany 19 15.9 Norway 18.9 16.2 Finland 18.9 15.7 Iceland 18.7 17.5 Dutch 18.4 15.5 Israel 18.2 16.8 Greece 18.1 16.0 UK 18.1 15.7 US 17.9 15.3 Portugal 17.7 14.9 Ireland 17.5 14.8 Denmark 17.2 15.2 Note: for a male Japanese relative to a US female, being Japanese almost makes up for being male. For contrast Chile 16.8 13.9 Cuba 16.7 15.2 Mexico 16.2 14.4 China 14.7 13.1 Vietnam 13.1 11.4 Zimbabwe 10.6 9.7 -xx- Damien X-)